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Posted - 2012.03.27 00:56:00 -
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I approve. Don't resign you glorious bastard. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:18:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:Man there are alot of hypocrits, well you know what, I was there as well and I am just as guilty then for laughing as the rest of the people present who did. And do you know why they did it? Because, and I know this is surprising to you all, it wasnt about cyberbulling, it was about Eve Online,Sandbox, Virtual World and the CEOs whose alliances dwell in it, however twisted and awesome they are. And of players who choose to be a prey or become a hunter.
Dont make me /wrists from all this awefull posting. Btw time for lunch
Krutoj, you just make me love you more and more every time you post. +1
The game is about what players make it. If they want to go around and extract tears, go ahead, I won't even bat an eye. The game is hard, and it's not forgiving. How are the players supposed to know if someone is (possibly) unstable, or just emoraging that his empire of 23 mackinaw characters just asploded in his face.
TL;DR Nothing to see here, go back to your worthless eve lives. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:21:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:You're a better man than just another dog with a bunch of mad dogs beating down the cat. It's not a Mittens take down any more right now just in case you haven't noticed, it's Alex their target, this is what just became disgusting in this thread. I really hope you are a better man than that, if not, then I just made a fool of my self. I am personally insulted that monkey boy expects me to take his less than two hundred dollar "gift" seriously. It's like watching a monkey throw poo at you, it gets old in the first second and goes down hill from there.
Confirming mad status. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:22:00 -
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Rutherford Rainman wrote:Since when are people allowed to just say "sorry" and walk away? Actions have consequences, even while drunk.
Someone obviously doesn't like the sandbox. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:24:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:To be honest, this does not surprise me at all. You had a few drinks and the real you bled through. This guy took time off from work, bought a plane ticket to Iceland, with all sorts of exectations of fun and celebration to be had with his fellow EVE pilots....  Instead he left having been made fun of by you infront of thousands of people streamed around the world. Thats an awesome memory to carry around with you for life......  Bought a plane ticket to Iceland: $1,200.00 Hotel Room with fellow EVE Pilots: $300.00 Titcekt to Fan Fest: $125.00 Get Screamed at by Alex Gianturd infront of Thousand of fellow EVE pilots..........  .
The Wis wasn't at fanfest. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:26:00 -
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Ninevite wrote:Make the next fanfest ban speakers from drinking before their presentations. It was just awful to watch some of the talks
Props to some of the folks on the alliance panel who denied alcohol while on stage
Everything is immensely more fun with alcohol. You think you can be good at internet spaceships without alcohol? |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:27:00 -
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L00B wrote:The best part about this thread is all the people equating sticks and stones to a mortal sin when this game has always been about theft, subterfuge, murder, destruction, and all sorts of other wonderful terms that make the original event pale in comparison.
Just what game have all of you been playing all this time? Do you even have time to get anything done, or are you just filing petitions the whole time you're online?
To be surprised that someone does something against the grain is just.... well.... I can't think of a better word than stupid. I tried, I really did!
What?! Rationality in this thread? Get outt  |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:28:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Quote:
But seriously, I saw your brothel role-playing website before you took it down under the goonrush when we started linking it on the forums. You can complain about the creepy behaviour, but not the facts used in the smearing :)
space prostitute
So why would I set my moral compass by what morally bankrupt people like you say? I mean really.
What makes you more moral then me? I get my jollies off by making people cry on the internet, and you roleplay the debasement of women. Who is the real bad guy... |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:42:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Aryndel Samson wrote:Joker Deville wrote:So I was sent here by some guy in my corp. Apparently our (alliance) CEO is a bully?
So The Mittani is like that Zimmerman guy in the news and this suicidal kid is the black boy everyone claims is the victim?
We all know deep inside he deserved to get shot. No black or brown man in the united states should wear hoodies! It was Trayvon's fault.
Free Zimmerman, and Free The Mittani!
This filth really needs to be removed from the forums.
butthurt pubbie is butthurt. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:46:00 -
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A wise man once said, Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Apparently no one listens to wise old men. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:51:00 -
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Candente wrote:Clearly, the line has been crossed and no amount of "I don't remember what I said and I'm truly sorry" will fix the negative PR that has been brought to CSM, CCP, Eve Online, and most importantly, Eve players as a whole. Nothing short of resign from the CSM or being removed by CCP, that is.
Let me say that again since it's important: The Mittani's behavior in the fanfest is the antithesis of what CSM council member should stand for. The shame is not only on Mittani's voters, but in a degree, all of active Eve players due to the number of votes he received. Great power... or popularity, rather, comes with great responsibility. Since a revote doesn't look realistic, It's time for the Mittani to look for a solution with CCP, such as appoint a successor, who isn't a sociopath that announce his or her interest of rallying harassment to force another Eve player to suicide in real life.
So a majority of eve players shouldn't be represented. As an asshat, I must disagree with you. Trolling, scamming, tears, and butthurt pubbies are part of the game, as much as ice mining or afk ratting. It's a sandbox, and just as in real life, some little kid is going to get sand kicked in his face, and his helicopter mother is going to get real bitchy real fast. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:52:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:If any of you idiots ever looked up gallows humor you would probably kill yourselves.
aha! |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:58:00 -
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Dalketh wrote:Powers Sa wrote:de4deye wrote:Convincing someone to commit suicide is not a laughing matter, mittani - you are a monster. Being drunk is not a sufficient excuse for your actions, there are no excuses here. A smug apology will not simply get you off of the hook. What was smug about it? It seems pretty genuine to me. I've pretty much dropped all trolling in this thread because the kneejerking is pretty epic. Says a goon.
Says an NPC copout. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 03:59:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Dalketh wrote:Powers Sa wrote:de4deye wrote:Convincing someone to commit suicide is not a laughing matter, mittani - you are a monster. Being drunk is not a sufficient excuse for your actions, there are no excuses here. A smug apology will not simply get you off of the hook. What was smug about it? It seems pretty genuine to me. I've pretty much dropped all trolling in this thread because the kneejerking is pretty epic. Says a goon. Ok, well I'm the anti Goon (pro-BOB, pro-Tri, pro-MC, pro-PL, etc) and I think the damn thing is about as genuine as is possible. Was it over the line? Yes. Was it apologized for? Yes. CASE CLOSED. -Liang
yay! logic! |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:02:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Princess Bride wrote:Wow, you really can't distinguish between in-game and real life, even now. Let me try to explain this to you: Real life player/person == CAN commit suicide in REAL LIFE Toon/character/Macinaw pilot == Pixels. In-game. Can only biomass. You did not encourage a toon to biomass. You asked a bunch of people to encourage a REAL LIFE person to commit REAL LIFE suicide. And now, instead of expressing concern for the PLAYER, you focus on his in-game activity with a very thin veneer of masked contempt. He's not an Eve player to you and certainly not a real person. You refer to him as "the miner". "A Macinaw pilot". A "Macinaw miner". Less than. A "pubbie." A normal person in this situation would at least try to contact this guy and apologize privately and personally. I'd suggest Skype (you have a chan don't you?) Maybe you could both sign a NDA. But you're not a normal person, are you? You're The Mittani, king of the goons, CSM chairman, Mr. "deal with it"...admitted sadist. Thanks for the new black eye you've given my favorite game, Mr. Chairman. And reversing yourself now saying. "I am not a sadist?" How do you reconcile that with bragging about being a sadist in your own campaign thread? You said, quote: i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interestingSo was that roleplaying, in your CSM campaign thread? Or was that the real Alex, like the guy with the mic? And if you're going to do a complete 180 on the whole "I'm a sadist, deal with it" tip, how can anyone trust that any part of your apology is sincere? (Before anyone says that was in-game, roleplaying, or the like you should read the convo in its entirety in his thread or in convo format here.) he told people to go the guy up :psyduck: No. He told people to go find the guy and "make the guy kill himself". Quote:As part of the talk, Alex aired a private correspondence in which a victim revealed that he'd been severely depressed following a divorce and expressed suicidal thoughts. "We're sure that he's not dead," Alex flippantly remarked during the talk before adding that "he might have committed suicide."
While a flippant remark that the victim may have killed himself could possibly be seen as drunken banter intended to embellish the impact of the story, later in the talk Alex actually gave the name of the pilot and encouraged players to harass him in order to make him commit suicide. "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [redacted]," Alex said, adding that "he has his own corp. Find him." The entire talk was watched by a packed room of Fanfest attendees and streamed live to thousands of players at home. Alex told players to "deal with it" when complaints surfaced on the EVE forum. http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/
the comments on that article are absolutely ******* golden. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:09:00 -
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JTK Fotheringham wrote:Jonatan Reed wrote:
the comments on that article are absolutely ******* golden.
The Mittani wrote:
deal with it~
Now you aren't even trying. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:12:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:Ninevite wrote:Make the next fanfest ban speakers from drinking before their presentations. It was just awful to watch some of the talks
Props to some of the folks on the alliance panel who denied alcohol while on stage erm, there was erm, maybe 3 guys from the panel who werent drunk yet?? Fanfest is for having fun, drinking is part of it, because beer and other are sold openly at the event. The fact of the matter I began each morning with 2-3 shots of vodka and then drinking beer and w/e else people brought (CSM status buys you a lot of free drinks, just ask Alex, oh wai..). ITS A PARTYYYYYYY. Presenting stuff on it just depends on how well you can behave and how much of a fool you can make out of yourself while drunk, or you can always present it sobber like Eve Uni CEO.
You continue to impress me krutoj. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:15:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:Sasha Khaine wrote:I don't drink a lot myself and these are precisely the reasons why I don't.
I would think that being someone as large of an influence within the game, you would have behaved more maturely. Heading to CCP's event and representing not only yourself but your corp/alliance mates and the game community as a whole with your CSM position you have really let a lot of people down. I don't know if your corp mates agree or disagree with what you did (reading some posts quite a few support it regardless of your apology) but for me at least I feel a line has been crossed.
Whilst it is good of you to apologise, I feel the damage has already been done. CCP has a major game coming out soon and your actions have no doubt pissed them off something rotten. Now they have to deal with the media, possible police inquiry's and other legal bits of business because of your actions.
Don't get me wrong, I don't view you as a monster and I understand what can happen when you have had a lot to drink but I feel that you just let a lot of people down. I don't want to see you banned, I want to see you put it right and this is a step in the right direction. So I wish you the best of luck in the upcoming months because you will no doubt have to deal with a lot of regret.
- Sasha Khaine You clearly didn't watch the part of the stream with the CCP dev team members drunk and talking about ************ and the like. This was certainly a super serious stream meant to only present super serious commentary.
Exactly, drinking and having fun are carnal sins. Mittens was the only one drinking ever. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:19:00 -
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Krutoj wrote:Jonatan Reed wrote:Krutoj wrote:Ninevite wrote:Make the next fanfest ban speakers from drinking before their presentations. It was just awful to watch some of the talks
Props to some of the folks on the alliance panel who denied alcohol while on stage erm, there was erm, maybe 3 guys from the panel who werent drunk yet?? Fanfest is for having fun, drinking is part of it, because beer and other are sold openly at the event. The fact of the matter I began each morning with 2-3 shots of vodka and then drinking beer and w/e else people brought (CSM status buys you a lot of free drinks, just ask Alex, oh wai..). ITS A PARTYYYYYYY. Presenting stuff on it just depends on how well you can behave and how much of a fool you can make out of yourself while drunk, or you can always present it sobber like Eve Uni CEO. You continue to impress me krutoj. Dont be,just like told Mittens, I am bored and farming likes in his thread. Anyway time to check in my bag,this freaken trip from Iceland never ends.. I have been flying since 25th 7am....
We are here for the same higher purpose you and I. I remember my trip to new zealand/Australia. :-) Took 31 hours. :X |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:19:00 -
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Mr Adebisi wrote:poop on my chest.
Confirming best post in /thread. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:22:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Krutoj wrote:Ninevite wrote:Make the next fanfest ban speakers from drinking before their presentations. It was just awful to watch some of the talks
Props to some of the folks on the alliance panel who denied alcohol while on stage erm, there was erm, maybe 3 guys from the panel who werent drunk yet?? Fanfest is for having fun, drinking is part of it, because beer and other are sold openly at the event. The fact of the matter I began each morning with 2-3 shots of vodka and then drinking beer and w/e else people brought (CSM status buys you a lot of free drinks, just ask Alex, oh wai..). ITS A PARTYYYYYYY. Presenting stuff on it just depends on how well you can behave and how much of a fool you can make out of yourself while drunk, or you can always present it sobber like Eve Uni CEO. Krutoj, king of never giving a ****. You have my alt vote next year.
Supporting a vice-chairman position for krutoj. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:26:00 -
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de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation.
Just going to leave that there.
> his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:35:00 -
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God, what if mittens kills himself because of all the pubbie shitposting... |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:38:00 -
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Dalketh wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:de4deye wrote:this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other The Mittani wrote:There's no excuse for what I did - while some might try to use my inebriation as a mitigating factor, I put myself in that compromised mental state, and the guilt of that is entirely mine. I'm starting to seriously question if anybody's reading the actual apology. You seem to be one of those people that no matter what the offense, 'I am sorry' is supposed to make everyone accept it as fine and dandy. Eve people are better than that.
Are we?  |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:39:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Xython wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:Kitfox Mikakka wrote:de4deye wrote:The reality is that a person's life matters much more than this game, no matter how much goon trolls want to try to cover up these posts. This is not a 12 step program, it doesn't matter that mittens was drunk - it is no good excuse to make fun of a suicidal person. Mittani knew what he did was wrong, which is why he is trying to cover his tracks with a quick and simplistic "I was drunk, wasn't my fault, I'm a victim too" excuse. Except he said his drunkenness is no excuse for how he acted in the ******* apology. It'd be awesome if any of you people bothered to read his post instead of immediately coming in to crucify a guy who's genuinely sorry about ******* up. But in the beginning he says "I was drunk and didn't remember." Is being drunk an excuse or not? It seems like he can't make his mind up about it. It seems he's only apologizing because he f-cked up in a major way in front of everyone. If this had been some private matter and he showed a powerpoint at a Goonswarm convention, and someone quietly blogged about it, do you think he'd be writing a formal, public apology? F-ck no. Amazing how many sockpuppets are also telepaths. I think we need to get a grip. All he did was make a tasteless joke. You assholes act like he pulled out a kitten and performed a live vivisection or something. Oh wait, it's Mittani, so literally anything he does is "TEH WORST THING EVER." Stupid pubbie sheep. Also: Reported for censorship bypass. I act like he publicly disgraced an online community that I am a part of and ask for it to be dealt with accordingly.
Oh noes, you have been disgraced in the internet! Call the government! |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:41:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:de4deye wrote:de4deye wrote:No matter how many of Mitten's friends come on here trying to defend his non-excusable actions, the fact remains that this will not be simply smoothed over with his "I was drunk" apology, nor any other. The game politics of who's alliance you are in has nothing to do with this. Mittani must be reprimanded for his severe actions against this poor suicidal person he had targeted to mock and make fun of in spite of his situation. It is very stange how some would openly allow and feel no remorse for this sick and sadistic behavior exhibited by Mittani. Monsters will be monsters, I suppose. Would that be be the poor suicidal person that joked about his "I want to die after my divorce statement"? Or the poor suicidal person who was completely unaware that he was supposedly being "cyber bullied", and could care less about all this nonsense?
I did a double take, the logic almost seemed to good to be true. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 04:44:00 -
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yay post 1000.  |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:03:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here. Regardless of which "side" you are on in this, "people" or "goon", everyone can agree that Alex, tbp The Mittani, screwed up. Even The Mittani agrees with that. See his above apology. Now it's a matter of damage control. For Alex to leave with any sort of honor, he must resign from the CSM, and soon. For CCP to get out of this with any sort of honor, they must ban him, because what he did was proveably premeditated, and far exceeds behaviour that CCP has banned people over in the past.
We'll get right on it.  |

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Princess Bride wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote: Probably tomorrow when he logs in.
But banned chars can't log in...
My god, THEY ARE LEARNING  |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 05:19:00 -
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Trolls Troll wrote:Sorry Mittani, but as Chair CSM this is too much. As head of Goonswarm I don't give a crap what you do, but when you represent the player base like this, it's time for you to move on.
Having yourself voted as chair because you have the largest alliance in the game shouldn't be considered any type of acheivement and maybe if your being Alex Gianturco for once, you should think about whether you are the right person to lead the CSM, when you are essentially elected via brute force......
When are you ever not elected by brute force?  |

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Princess Bride wrote:The real question is, what action can CCP take to mitigate the damages in the lawsuit? No, probably not by the guy targeted by Alex. But if there ever IS a cyber-bullying lawsuit that drags CCP into court, and CCP didn't take action here, that WILL be used to prove that CCP ignored previous events, or that CCP is "soft" on cyber-bullies.
Like it or not, there are laws against it in a few states already, you don't see an eventual cause of action against CCP? I bet CCP does.
As a paralegal, I bet Alex has already done the math here. Just a matter of timing now.
The griefing and trolling are part of the game, and CCP discloses in the EULA that it is. The minute you start playing this game, you agree to all sorts of griefing and general asshattery. Deal with it. There are no laws that can do anything against CCP. I always find the ESRB sticker saying 'online interactions are not rated' as slightly humorous especially when applied to this whole scenario. |

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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:39:00 -
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Are people STILL commenting on this ****? He apologized, and was truly sorry. If you don't want to believe that fine, but he has done more for EVE then any of you ******* have, so shove it.
TL;DR **** Off. Move on. |
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